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Community => Research Department => Graphics => Topic started by: Chartax on April 10, 2011, 02:35:48 PM

Title: Official Logo
Post by: Chartax on April 10, 2011, 02:35:48 PM
I think it would be best for the project to adopt an official logo. At present there are about a thousand different logos. Firstly, is the forum logo...

(http://forums.corsix-th.com/Themes/noize_20rc3/images/green/logo.png)

There is also the game logo icon

(http://h4z.it/Image/thlogo.png)

And there is the signpost in the game, which is similar to the game icon.

(http://h4z.it/Image/corsixsign.png)

There's no real accepted "standard" logo for publications. I think it's important to a product's identity to have an instantly recognizable logo.

Opinions/comments welcomed as always
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on April 10, 2011, 06:30:30 PM
I totally agree that there should be one consistent logo.
I experimented with a few concepts a couple of months back. Never finished it though. I tried to stay close tho the original but create something unique that looks good in high resolution.
Here they are:

The first one is inspired by this image (http://divxnetworks.do.sapo.pt/Theme_Hospital-front%5B1%5D.jpg). This is not a real concept (I actually don't like it too much) but it was a exercise for my material skills in Blender.
(http://static.zooomr.com/images/9700865_4fb006fc98.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/9700865_599eb343c5_o.png)

The second one is a serious attempt that stays close tho the original.
(http://static.zooomr.com/images/9884677_5a26e7a409.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/9884677_e2da36490d_o.png)

This is a vector version of the second concept that can be used for icons. I attached a .ico file of this logo, with images in various resolutions. (Delete the .png from the file name, I wasn't allowed to upload a .ico file)
(http://static.zooomr.com/images/9884676_9ef1a34ccd.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/9884676_7567429a35_o.png)
 
I like this last one the best, because I think the cross with three beams is a more original shape.
(http://static.zooomr.com/images/9884678_052f9fa1bc.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/9884678_ddc933e7ee_o.png)
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: mirek2 on April 29, 2011, 08:58:02 PM
I like these proposals, but I'm wondering whether maybe it wouldn't be better to have a logo that's a bit more distinct from the Theme Hospital logos, to be safe from legal action.

I think a good symbol for CorsixTH would be the six-pointed game piece from your level board game. It's good symbolism, it's unique to CorsixTH, and it brings Theme Hospital to mind without being too similar to the original copyrighted logo. It also works with various sizes, since you can add/subtract detail and secondary items (like the stethoscope, the briefcase, and the car).
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Dr. Rivers on May 01, 2011, 02:13:57 AM
Loved the last one (http://static.zooomr.com/images/9884678_ddc933e7ee_o.png). I'm just divided in regards to the black and white square in the background. I'm not sure if it could be improved (IMO) with something else, like the signpost in the game, or be left as a nod (can't remember a better word) to Bullfrog. The black and white background in the game titles was also used in Theme Park and Theme Aquarium.

Best regards,
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on October 04, 2011, 09:44:04 PM
In this (http://forums.corsix-th.com/index.php/topic,227.msg4571.html#new) thread mirek2 came up with the idea to use the main pawn of the board game as a logo. (I see now he also mentioned it in this tread in may  ::) guess I've missed that )

Because I liked the idea, and I'm not satisfied with the logo's I posted in this tread earlier, I decided to work it out.
I created the following concepts:

3D Logo
(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10090210_96a93886dc.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/10090210_6f28880fd4_o.png)

2D Logo
(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10090254_d2829843d5.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/10090254_d4c0092465_o.png)

Icons (Image is real size, Click for big Icon)
(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10090249_ce44423d42_o.png) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/10090252_dd78bfdc18_o.png)

Personally I really like the icons. Let me heat what you think of it!

I'll post the source files here soon
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Grimdoc on October 04, 2011, 10:38:40 PM
I liked the 3D logo and the icons.
Didn't like the 2D so much. Not sure why.

Maybe it is that the bright green color has no black contrast like in the icon, and that in the 3D it is much darker green.
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Lego3 on October 05, 2011, 04:48:55 PM
I like them too. :-) At the same time I very much like the main menu background too, in that it actually is a signpost. Maybe it could still be a sign post there, but a longer one with the 3D logo?
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: mirek2 on October 06, 2011, 06:57:51 PM
@Wolter: Wow, cool, thanks!
The icons are great! The pawn in the 2D logo is a bit pixelated, but otherwise I prefer it to the 3D logo (I really like the bright green glow of the 2D version).
Thanks again. :)
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on October 11, 2011, 03:09:08 PM
Here are two derivations of the concept.
(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10095299_fafa2cf986.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/10095299_9ed94f595e_o.png)

(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10095272_fd81e04e39.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/10095272_b440316176_o.png)


Does everyone agree on the following points?:
- There needs to be a single distinctive official logo for CorsixTH (as stated in the original post of this topic)
- The pawn is to be the central symbol of the logo
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: MarkL on October 11, 2011, 03:26:50 PM
Yes to both.
From your two concepts I like the first, but would like it more if it were nearer to what we have now i.e. a blue background sign with Corsix TH at the top and then the pawn logo inset - see first comment - with the rivets holding it to the post.
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Grimdoc on October 11, 2011, 08:18:25 PM
Yes and yes. I think so.
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on October 15, 2011, 03:26:30 PM
I tried some things with the road signs which turned out quite nice. I personally don't really like the colored logo on the sign, the green and blue don't match well enough. But I like the second one.
They are too crowded for a logo IMHO, too much elements. I like to see them as logo artwork that can be used for banners ect.

Here they are:

(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10097294_8851c9a7bc.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/10097294_ca4268aa85_o.png)
(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10097293_d2469f70cf.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/10097293_3ae888c96a_o.png)

MY FINAL PROPOSAL FOR THE LOGO:
I did some minor adjustments to the first concept in my previous post, and I like it really much. I think it should be the future logo. Here are some versions of it:

(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10097299_1f9d69abe0_m.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/10097299_547a0d8a94_o.png)

(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10097301_52fc466c1e.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/10097301_63786b2537_o.png)

(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10097300_c5e4536491.jpg) (http://static.zooomr.com/images/10097300_708683dfff_o.png)

I don't think I can improve it anymore so this is my final version. I really hope you guys like it... If you have comments, critique's or request just post them, I can't guarantee they will be granted but you can try ;).
I attached the source files and an .ico file that can be used for the game. (I couldn't upload .ico files, so just delete the .png and it should work.)

The source files are too big, should I post them on the googlecode page?
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Lego3 on October 15, 2011, 08:45:21 PM
I like them! :-)
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on October 16, 2011, 10:36:05 AM
That's great since you are the most active project owner on the moment. :)
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Grimdoc on October 16, 2011, 12:36:32 PM
As I said in the IRC channel: I like them too :)
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Lego3 on October 16, 2011, 02:49:32 PM
As much as I also like the new animated main menu, I'm afraid it won't get into the game until someone with C++ skills comes along and adds support for it. Therefore the first step would be to change the main menu to use the new logo instead. The question then, is what it should look like. That's one reason why I've tried to stick with the sign post concept - the change wouldn't take long to do. Would it work with a green background on the sign?

In how many places is a logo used at the moment?
We have: the forum, the google code page, an icon for the game itself, I could add it to the Windows installer. Any more places I've forgotten?
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on October 16, 2011, 03:20:00 PM
There's also the twitter and facebook page

I can change the current background with the latest of my traffic sign concepts. I think it's okay to deviate slightly from the official logo in the main menu, because it is the same shape. (Unlike for example the current main menu logo and the forum logo).

About the animated menu; It's not necessary to implement the animation right away, I can also render a still of the scene and some different poses for the right hand and the stick. I've also been working on the menu items lately. If you add all that together you could build up a menu much like the bank manager menu.
This would still take some work so I'll update the current menu first.


Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on October 16, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
The menu is done  ;D
issue 192 (http://code.google.com/p/corsix-th/issues/detail?id=192)
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Lego3 on October 18, 2011, 10:16:13 AM
Since everyone involved in the discussion have agreed that it looks good I'll start changing to this new logo at the places I can remember. :-)
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Lego3 on October 18, 2011, 10:41:38 AM
Could you make a version that is 164x314 in some way (with things around it if you wish), that I can use in the installer's first page to the left? It does preferably contain some kind of spacing at the edges.
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on October 23, 2011, 06:24:03 PM
Is this what you mean? I made two different dimensions because I measured that the image in the installer has a dimension of 192x388.

(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10102959_02e1cf7927_o.png)

(http://static.zooomr.com/images/10102958_f9cce108e4_o.png)

What do you mean with the spacing? Should I add a white border or should I shrink the logo a little bit so that it doesn't get cropped?
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Lego3 on October 23, 2011, 07:52:52 PM
The spacing was just depending on what type of thing you made. This works perfectly. :-) It scales the image automatically, so in this case the lower one looks better in my opinion, since you can see a little more of the hospital.
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on October 23, 2011, 08:20:52 PM
Sounds great!
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on November 05, 2011, 07:00:22 PM
He Edvin, The four google groups (discussion lists) still use the old logo. Can you update them?
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Grimdoc on November 06, 2011, 03:00:05 AM
Here is the links, making it faster for you to change them.

Announcements: https://groups.google.com/group/corsix-th-announce/icon
Development & Discussion: https://groups.google.com/group/corsix-th-dev/icon
Change notifications: https://groups.google.com/group/corsix-th-updates/icon
Translators: https://groups.google.com/group/corsix-th-translators/icon

All of them are 42x42 px png.

Any reason why the links are pointing to different images? Couldn't they just point to the same image?
Or have Google hard-coded it to be this way?
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Lego3 on November 06, 2011, 09:10:06 AM
They unfortunately aren't really connected at all from Google's point of view...
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Lego3 on November 06, 2011, 09:21:44 AM
Hmm. It seems that this feature has been disabled for google groups. :-( And I'm not administrator for two of them.
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: Wolter on November 06, 2011, 12:08:44 PM
It would've been nice, but it's not a really big deal.
Title: Re: Official Logo
Post by: tylnsthlre on November 21, 2011, 05:08:11 PM
Its not a logo as such but I've been using these file icons on my computer for a while (I'm not a fan on the originals)
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_luqbbanhr51qaejxao1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1321981580&Signature=36amvCVgk0SJu5KRN1sbiudQ9rA%3D)